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Men's Dating Tips > Do Neg Hits Work?

Do Neg Hits Work?

By Ray Jensen
Copyright © 2006, Seduction Insider, www.seductioninsider.com.






We published an article in recent days titled "The Truth About Pick Up Artists". In it the writer shared that neg hits aren`t the way to go.

Let`s think a little bigger, for a moment. Case in point: Brad Pitt. The bigger you are (for example, a celebrity), the less you need to say, and the more women have a tendency to chase after you.

Does Brad Pitt use neg hits on the women in his life? No, he uses something else...

But Brad Pitt is a celebrity, you say. He`s from a different world. The rules are different there. Here on Earth, neg hits are the answer.

Here`s what I say to that... Look at the everyday celebrities around you. You know, the guys you see on occassion in your area who seem bigger than life, the guys who don`t seem desperate for attention, the guys who move through life with a superior relaxed confidence, the Godfather like guys in the nightclub surrounded by their friends and posse... everywhere they go. It`s a safe bet they didn`t get there through neg hits. In fact, I`d put all of my money on either:

1) They`re rockstars with a ton of money and drugs.

or...

2) They have a natural charisma that seduces people by the masses.


Natural Charisma vs. Neg Hits

After posting the article "The Truth About Pick Up Artists", we received a few emails from men who swear by the neg hit, and we also received a few emails from men thanking us for the article, men who don`t swear by the neg hit. I`ll share with you three of those emails from both sides:


From A Reader Who Swears By Neg Hits

"In todays` society, many women are suffering from the `Cinderella` effect. In reality, she is only a 6 or a 7, but because men are hitting on her, she imagines herself, in her own mind, to be a 9 or a 10. She puts up what is known as a bitch shield.

The purpose of a neg hit is to do these women a favor, and knock them off their false pedestals. We`re all human, and we all have common failings and flaws. These Cinderella women have this false sense that because they are beautiful, they are somehow better than men, that men need `permission` just to talk to them, and that men should do everything to kiss up to them. How wrong they are. They need to be shown reality.

The neg hit levels the playing field. They are actually only used to break through the shield, and set the proper frame. After a few neg hits, the social interaction can go on from a status of equal vs. equal. Yes, men are flawed, but women are just as flawed. Yes, men want sex, but women want sex just as much as men do. The woman will either understand this, and accept it, or else it`s too bad. For her of course.

The neg hits can also be used to tease, and flirt. They can be used to elicit emotions. They should not be taken too seriously. If a woman overreacts to a neg hit, it`s an effective way to screen her out. Therefore, neg hits can help prevent men from wasting time and money.

Women are everywhere, and a lot of them are actually nice with a good sense of humor. A bright, intelligent woman will engage, and return fire with her own wit, and a smile. If any one woman is too aloof or self absorbed, then men should just go find ten other women. (GFTOW) After interacting with these ten other women, if the first woman (what was her name again?) is still there, consider giving her a second chance."


Let`s back up a little bit... So, if a woman overreacts to a neg hit, it`s an effective way to screen her out?... What if she`s just a nice girl who has met a lot of assholes in her time?

That`s a common problem with neg hits. They leave a lot to interpretation. And as it is, many men have a hard time communicating with women, and vice versa, and understanding each other correctly. Why make it difficult? On top of that, I`m lazy. I don`t want to neg hit ten girls to attract one (If I finally find one girl that a neg hit `works` on, I`ve just made nine enemies in the process, and they all have friends). I only want to hit on two girls, get these two girls making out with each other, and then take both home...

What`s going to get me that? Neg hits? Or natural charisma?...


Neg Hits And "The Secret Of The Sexes"

Another reader writes...

"I live in England and this week on BBC there was a programme about attraction called. "The Secret of the Sexes" wherein science was predicting attraction through facial symmetry and similarities between couples (by the way neither of those bore any real life proof in their final results)

They had 20 men and 20 women in a speed dating scenario. 3 of the men were supposedly PUA [pick up artists] and taught a class in London. They showed a brief clip of the class where they were talking about wing men. Each man met every woman for a period of about 3 mins, so each person had 20 opportunities to get a date that evening. the object was to see if the woman they had made up to look more symetrical was asked on more dates than the rest (she wasn`t).

With the focus on this particular woman it was difficult to see what the 3 seduction, so called, experts were doing, but when the lead seducer sat in front of her, he immediatly neg hit her! The scientist reported the other seducers were saying similar things as well (the scientist had never heard of neg hit theory.)

At the end of the speed dating session each person put their photos into the envelopes of the people they wanted to date. So any guy could have got up to 20 dates in all. With 3 seduction artists that gave them a total of 60 possible dates between them.

The result...

Between them they got 1 date out of 60! And that was only because a woman put her photo in most mens envelopes. So they even lost out on 2 possible dates there as she left 2 of the seduction masters (laughs at the word masters) out altogether and asked uglier men instead.

The main/lead seducer was found to be the least attractive male out of the 20 as well, with most women hating him!.

I am in total agreement with you about neg hits.

Here is the web address for the tv show.

The Secret of The Sexes

Although those results arent listed in the site as the focus is the woman and not the seducers. But still there are some points worth looking at."


Charm vs. Neg Hits (or James Bond vs. Carrot Top)

A reader writes...

"I just wanted to thank you for your recent arcticle by Melissa Balmer regarding the act of charming women. I know... "Extra! Extra! Women like to be charmed!", but it has really made me feel free. Over the past year I`ve been reading some of the cocky/funny/alpha male material and it is completely contrary to my personality, but now I`ve had it ingrained into my personality that this is how I must be. It`s just not comfortable for me and I haven`t been able to apply it properly. I know it can be effective and I can even understand why a woman might react to it. In practice, though, I just don`t get it, and come off as a jerk. When I try to use it with friends it stops the conversation cold. The typical response is for her to mumble "uh-huh", turn her head, and ignore me for a few minutes.

In fact, there is someone I feel very close to, and all I want to do is show her kindness and respect, and to value her, but instead this cocky/funny stuff makes me feel like I have to try to be a smart ass. A rift has developed between us, and I`m sure it is largely because I haven`t known how to treat her properly. I`m certain she likes to be teased, and I know it can be an unthreatening way for met to pay attention to her, but it`s just not something that is natural for me.

Your article has released me from feeling I have to use the alpha male mindset, and hopefully I can relearn just to treat her well. Hopefully I can salvage the friendship."


So, we have a few readers who swear by neg hits, and a few readers who don`t.

Let`s take this to the Seduction Insider Forum. Post your opinion and tips on neg hits vs. natural charisma.





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